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valentina Posted - 06/03/2011 : 19:44:21
Still a little one here she is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjvAKcy6N6M


*Video has footage of a live prey item being offered*
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hiper2009 Posted - 10/03/2011 : 18:12:13
quote:
Originally posted by Snakesitter

^^^ Agreed, owner's responsibility to supervise. Still, always good to warn people, as new owners may not realize the potential risk.... ^^^



Well atleast they are aware of it now .
Snakesitter Posted - 09/03/2011 : 18:30:39
^^^ Agreed, owner's responsibility to supervise. Still, always good to warn people, as new owners may not realize the potential risk.... ^^^
Kehhlyr Posted - 09/03/2011 : 07:37:47
IMO a snake getting injured through live feeding will only be down to the stupidity of an owner not supervising.
If a snake has always been fed on live food then it wont be a pansy feeder like most cornsnakes that just lazily take food, it'll know that they can and will fight back.
I'm not saying I agree with live feeding, I don't disagree either.
We can take as many precautions as we want with how we care and house our snakes, the supervision of live feeding belongs in the care category.
The amount of images I've seen of snakes that have been excessively damaged by prey have always been down to the owners just dumping a prey item in with them and wandering off.

hiper2009 Posted - 08/03/2011 : 20:15:48
quote:
Originally posted by Snakesitter

I tend to fall into the live-only-when-necessary camp. There are many reasons, but safety, cost, convenience, and public relations top the list. That said, I think the point has already been (well!) made, so let's not turn a welcome thread into another feeding discussion. :-)

Valentina, Ash has a great point, the shop you acquired the snake from can probably help you mind prekilled rodents.



Thank you Cliff .
Snakesitter Posted - 08/03/2011 : 19:15:10
I tend to fall into the live-only-when-necessary camp. There are many reasons, but safety, cost, convenience, and public relations top the list. That said, I think the point has already been (well!) made, so let's not turn a welcome thread into another feeding discussion. :-)

Valentina, Ash has a great point, the shop you acquired the snake from can probably help you find prekilled rodents.
hiper2009 Posted - 08/03/2011 : 10:48:08
quote:
Originally posted by Mez

A major issue I can see with live feeding is that larger prey items could unnecessarily injure your snake, we take many precautionary measures to prevent injuries, such as using thermostats, lamp guards, not using sticky tape inside the viv etc.
So why risk injuring your snake by live feeding?
If sourcing pre-killed prey items proves difficult either breed them yourself or humanely kill them before feeding them to your snake.



Agreed ^^

@ Kehhlyr I know what your saying but i think the thread name should be changed to (Live Feeding) in it as some members don't like seeing this watching a rat pup suffer..
Mez Posted - 08/03/2011 : 01:17:37
A major issue I can see with live feeding is that larger prey items could unnecessarily injure your snake, we take many precautionary measures to prevent injuries, such as using thermostats, lamp guards, not using sticky tape inside the viv etc.
So why risk injuring your snake by live feeding?
If sourcing pre-killed prey items proves difficult either breed them yourself or humanely kill them before feeding them to your snake.
Kehhlyr Posted - 07/03/2011 : 23:37:01
I see no issue with live feeding, different countries do different things.
From recollection we've had people on thecornsnake forum who live in the states that live feed their corns due to difficulty in sourcing frozen food.
hiper2009 Posted - 07/03/2011 : 14:47:01
Where did you get your Brb from as if you bought from a reptile shop over there then i am sure they will sell frozen rats or mice.

As others have said it's not nice feeding live don't like to see the prey item suffer especialy if your brb is not even contstricting it's prey and eating it live it's cruel , I know your snake has to eat but please try and prekill your prey before hand.
valentina Posted - 07/03/2011 : 14:26:43
wow thank you sooo much for your advice!!!!!!!

i will follow it! really appreciate it cause i was very upset did not want to offer live pray to my baby and well i couldnt get my self killing it but this gas thing seems painless since it makes mice asleep first

thank you i really do appreciate it!
Mez Posted - 07/03/2011 : 13:31:29
I agree with what Louise has said.
You should really kill the prey item before feeding it to your snake.
As your snake grows & requires larger prey items, feeding live could result in the prey item injuring your snake.

I breed rats for my snakes & this is the basic set up I use to kill the rats.

The small container fixed to the side of the larger container is filled with water so as not to allow air back into the main gas chamber.
The gas is allowed to very slowly flow into the gas chamber until the rats are asleep then the gas is allowed to flow quickly to kill them.

This could be expensive if you are only killing 1 or 2 prey items, if you could buy a larger number of prey items it would be more cost effective, although it will cost less than veterinary treatment for an injured snake.

Instead of CO2 a plastic bottle containing dry ice can be used.
Invalid User Posted - 07/03/2011 : 12:37:30
Kill it before you offer it to the snake!

Live feeding has it's place but imo if the snake has no feeding issues then no need to feed live.

I find it hard to watch a feed like that as the snake did not constrict the prey first but tried to swallow it alive! Did it get swallowed in the end? If you can only get hold of live food then you may be best killing it before you give to your snake.

I am just starting out breeding my own feeder mice but I won't be offering them live to my snakes. They will be humainly killed before fed to the snakes.
valentina Posted - 07/03/2011 : 11:32:38
because in Cyprus (where i live) i cant find packed frozen mice or rats :( i have contacted several UK companies but they do not ship outside UK any idea what i can do??
Invalid User Posted - 07/03/2011 : 09:02:15
Also wondering why you are live feeding?
Mez Posted - 07/03/2011 : 01:53:21
Can I ask why your live feeding?

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