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| Shinslayer19 |
Posted - 31/07/2011 : 15:56:31
Ok I would like to open this up to debate. I don't want any yelling or mud slinging or anything like that.
Some people remove snakes from their enclosure and put them into a feeding tub when they feed them. Others do not. I would just like to know why you choose to do what you do when feeding time comes around. I guess I will start it off.
I do not put my snakes into a separate tub. I feed them in their enclosures by hand. No tongs. I watch them closes for any sign of consuming the substrate. on a different point i have never had my snake mistake my hand for a rodent when I am reaching in to get them out of their tanks. I believe snakes are very intelligent when it comes to food and know that my hand is different. However I wouldn't try this with a reticulated python by any means just on the off chance of a mistake strike. What is everyone else's view. (btw Hi to everyone who is new here. I have not been on in a long time. |
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| gluttony32 |
Posted - 24/08/2011 : 06:36:51
...i agree wholeheartedly that a bigger snake is a force to be reckoned with..I once had a burm that was rescued and was viv fed her entire life..she was as docile as as any snake ive ever seen but that didnt stop her from latching on to my finger one night at 9 feet long...hitting an artery making my finger spurt like a super soaker...after i closed it up and it healed i still had a tooth in my finger, 5 years later it made its way out but not before bothering me for the years in between. |
| flaboye |
Posted - 23/08/2011 : 22:35:21
Well I have 3 here. A BRB, a hypo BCI and a large Redtail. The brb and bci both know the difference between my hand and a rat, but the redtail...lol. Well at 7' his "mistake" isn't just funny it's a little more than that, but not like a freaking blood python's hit. For him I never enter the tank without a gloved hand to let him know it's me and not food, period. Once I do that he's fine. I can dis-glove and handle him just fine. When I do feed him I just toss it in, either a live rat because he grew up on live feeds, or a frozen/thawed. If frozen, I toss that on top of his house and he smells it and does what comes natural. He eats where he lives. I don't wish to handle any of mine after they feed (as you do when feeding in a separate tank).
Again for the large boy, I tap on the tank, make noise, let him know I'm coming, stick my gloved hand up to his head so he can see it's me, and all is well. Even if it's feeding day, he's hungry, mad, etc., as long as I make him aware it's me and not food no issues. But he's been imprinted this way, so. Redtails are really cool. If you want a VERY LARGE snake that's as docile as can be, they're a sure bet.
-Joe |
| gluttony32 |
Posted - 23/08/2011 : 15:55:34
Lets start by saying that where and when each keeper feeds his charges is up to his own accord. There is much debate over in viv or out. I find what works for each individual can sometimes be as variable as the snakes we keep. There is technically no wrong answer to this question. I mix my feeding up depending on my shedule. they alway eat on sunday night and each week i switch up from in their enclosure to a feeding tub. I have one for each snake and feed them in the tubs in order to do a thourough cleaning of their everyday enclosure & helps me to inspect each snake individually and hold them in turn for five or 10 minutes at least. As a seasoned herper and professinoal chef my time is consumed weekly by the sheer amount of hours(70-80hrs.) I work..but I manage to make time for them and this is how its been working for me....As for the debate issue, If they feed in the enclosure every week they assume eachtime u open the lid its feeding time(in time), if u take them out each time they think everytime they are out its time to eat and may tend to be jumpy or even nippy...which leaves us with?...feeding outside next..lol im kidding...it all boils down to You and your preference.. |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 19:25:00
I ran across an interesting article earlier today on the tub versus viv feeding issue, and thought I would share it here: http://pet-snakes.com/feed-snake-separate-tank. Overall I agree with the opinion, except that there are a few substrates (mostly hard bark) that I'm leery of. But with moss, dirt, and other soft materials, I agree it is fine if a small bit gets ingested. |
| Shinslayer19 |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 04:17:45
I have video taped my snake feeding once and posted it on google video just to keep for myself. No one else saw it. |
| CDN_Blood |
Posted - 08/08/2011 : 21:57:13
Interesting. This was actually the topic of my very first Rant on my own site and like to get other people's feedback. Like I said, I'm a curious kinda guy  |
| gmac |
Posted - 08/08/2011 : 21:19:31
I have broadcast the feeding once I think, It is generally good for folks that maybe have a corn or boa to see the feeding process and response for other types of snake in a controlled environment and not just hoping to google a feeding video.
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| Snakesitter |
Posted - 08/08/2011 : 20:49:36
quote:
Originally posted by CDN_Blood
I'm curious as to why people post feeding pics or broadcast a snake feeding.
I'm leery of that myself. On the other hand, it's kind of sad we have to be: if it was puppy or kitten eating, everyone would be all gushy and warm. But post a baby snake and there are those who run....
:-( |
| CDN_Blood |
Posted - 08/08/2011 : 18:22:45
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Originally posted by Kehhlyr
...I quite often turn the webcam onto feeding times and broadcast it.
I'm curious as to why people post feeding pics or broadcast a snake feeding. Seeing as it's part of the 'feeding debate', I thought I'd ask what the logic is behind it. What can I say, I'm a curious kinda fella  |
| newbie |
Posted - 08/08/2011 : 16:35:52
I try to feed mine in seperate tubs because of substrate swallowing concerns, as said above, it gives a cleaning opportunity to!
I did rather foolishly allow my brb to eat off a plastic plate I was holding in my hand as she appeared terrified of the tongs, literally running away every time I dangled the fluf, but she's recovered from these initial nerves now, so no more holding while feeding! Not intentional and rather daft, but luckily no harm done  |
| Shinslayer19 |
Posted - 07/08/2011 : 01:00:54
I am not a huge picture taker much any more.......if you all haven't noticed with my terrible lack of pictures haha. The substrate is a good point. I have had one of my ball pythons get a single piece in her mouth when eating and she is so calm i reached in a pulled it out while she was eating and she didn't even budge. |
| Kehhlyr |
Posted - 06/08/2011 : 03:08:07
I feed all mine in tubs at the moment, with tongs (even when giving pinkys to the hoggies).
I do this for multiple reasons:
a) less chance of ingestion of substrate
b) I can also get better feeding pics
c) gives a few mins to double check the vivs/fauns/rubs for any debris that I might've missed
d) I quite often turn the webcam onto feeding times and broadcast it. |
| Shinslayer19 |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 13:12:19
That is what I was hoping for Gmac. I feed in viv and never in tubs and i have never had one even take striking position at me when I went to get them out for handling. |
| gmac |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 09:29:36
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Originally posted by Shinslayer19
Also, if you are getting a snake out every time to feed it. I would think it would connect some one picking it up to food. It knows it has to get picked up to get food. Who says it wouldn't just think it is getting fed and pop you when you pick it up to handle it. This one I am not too sure of just a thought.
Never had any issues handling any of our snakes we feed in tubs out of the housing, apart from our gmac hating we corn girl yearling but shes always hated me. Our Royals do seem to understand feeding night though they are more alert and they actually move in the housing, im assuming they sense rats warming up for them, however they have never went to strike at me when lifting out of the house and then when they are placed in the tub the assume the strike position. |
| Shinslayer19 |
Posted - 02/08/2011 : 02:56:24
I agree that larger ones should be fed with tongs. Just the risk of getting tagged by a large snake sucks. I have been hit by a 7 foot burmese and it was not fun. He also just hit and let go, lucky for me. however, snakes know the diff between a hand and food. if you rub a rat with your hand and then try and pick up a snake you should have your head examined. but if your hand is moving towards them and touches them on the side, I seriously doubt they will get it confused with a rat dangling and levitating in front of them. (but what do I know)
Also, if you are getting a snake out every time to feed it. I would think it would connect some one picking it up to food. It knows it has to get picked up to get food. Who says it wouldn't just think it is getting fed and pop you when you pick it up to handle it. This one I am not too sure of just a thought. |
