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| oakleyman18 |
Posted - 12/10/2010 : 20:34:16
Hi All,
Purchased a baby Brazilian about two weeks ago, and just had a little concern about her size. She's beautiful, don't get me wrong, but I'm a bit worried she's been underfed. Here's her food table from the breeders:
04/07
08/07
13/07
22/07
07/08
19/08
08/09
20/09
27/09
Since then, I've thought she was a little underweight, and fed her on 03/10, 08/10 and just now, 12/10. Some of the gaps are near 3 weeks, which seems really bad to me especially when they are growing up.
Her skin seems to "fold" a little when she is bending or curling, and also sometimes looks a little saggy/loose, almost mottled in some areas. I would attach a picture, but she's still settling and a bit vunerable, so will post one asap, but hopefully the description will help.
I don't want to stuff her face, or risk her not feeding, so I urgently need some advice on how to proceed.
Thanks Rainbow Lovers!
Oscar |
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| hiper2009 |
Posted - 22/10/2010 : 22:09:46
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Originally posted by hiper2009
Sorry to thread jack Oscar ,
@IncurableFlirt
Could you post some pics of Isis your ballpython it looks sexy i want it  
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| Snakesitter |
Posted - 19/10/2010 : 16:34:52
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Originally posted by hiper2009
your ballpython it looks sexy i want it
 And what a threadjack it was..... |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 19/10/2010 : 12:26:32
Sorry to thread jack Oscar ,
@IncurableFlirt
Could you post some pics of Isis your ballpython it looks sexy i want it |
| IncurableFlirt |
Posted - 19/10/2010 : 02:01:03
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Originally posted by oakleyman18
It is "slightly" pink at the moment, but would she be in shed less than a week after shedding? Now that she's got more food do you think she's going into growth overdrive? lol Shee seems quite healthy and attentive when I pick her up, and no nips!
Interestingly enough, when I got her out this morning, her skin seemed very loose, but then after about 5 minutes of handling, the effects seemed less? Not gone, just less. Could it be that she just needs more exercise? I'm not sure how much she was handled as a hatchling.
Thanks to everyone for their advice so far! And for being patient :)
On an unrelated note, I went into my local pet shop this morning and someone was in the process of buying a baby Columbian Rainbow Boa which I had always admired.. I shot them a look of jealousy :D
Oh and did anyone realise that Pacman frogs ate MICE pinkies?! I was shocked!!
I agree with Snakesitter, that is pretty soon for her to be shedding again already. I will be looking forward to hearing more about her over the coming weeks to see how this progresses. As to the Pacman frogs, I first heard that about a month ago and was totally shocked, myself. I had no idea there were carnivorous frogs out there.  I knew most of them were insectivores, but to learn that one would eat a mouse pink was just crazy. They sure are cute little devils, though. |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 18/10/2010 : 19:05:01
A shed again that soon would be a new one on me. Sometimes they get a very slight pink tone without it being shed-related.
A sudden increase in food will certainly lead to a growth spurt.
I'm not sure about the "loose skin" appearance. However, she should get enough exercise just in her cage.
Her attentive behavior is a good sign! And for that matter, so is the lack of nipping!
Keep us posted.... |
| oakleyman18 |
Posted - 16/10/2010 : 15:48:19
It is "slightly" pink at the moment, but would she be in shed less than a week after shedding? Now that she's got more food do you think she's going into growth overdrive? lol Shee seems quite healthy and attentive when I pick her up, and no nips!
Interestingly enough, when I got her out this morning, her skin seemed very loose, but then after about 5 minutes of handling, the effects seemed less? Not gone, just less. Could it be that she just needs more exercise? I'm not sure how much she was handled as a hatchling.
Thanks to everyone for their advice so far! And for being patient :)
On an unrelated note, I went into my local pet shop this morning and someone was in the process of buying a baby Columbian Rainbow Boa which I had always admired.. I shot them a look of jealousy :D
Oh and did anyone realise that Pacman frogs ate MICE pinkies?! I was shocked!! |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 15/10/2010 : 20:17:15
A variant term for the species is the "slender boa," which should give you an idea what Incurable is speaking of. The only time a Brazilian should ever look "plump" is a female during the breeding cycle.
Multiple people have noted the probable shed, so keep an eye on her belly -- if it goes pink, she's in shed!
Looking forward to the updated pictures! |
| oakleyman18 |
Posted - 15/10/2010 : 08:11:41
Thanks guys, you've been a fantastic help! At least I know she isn't seriously unhealthy. I'll post a picture of her in a month or so's time to let you see any progress! :) |
| IncurableFlirt |
Posted - 15/10/2010 : 04:55:41
She actually does not look thin to me. Brazilian Rainbow Boas are actually a very thin snake naturally. They are not big around (or are not supposed to be) like a BCI red tail Boa. These guys (BRBs) should be very long and very slender.
I do have to say, though, that in the picture, it does look like your BRB is in a shed cycle. Is she always that pale in color....or is it just a washout from your camera's flash?
The mottling you are talking about...I can't really see it? Are you talking about the smaller raised "bump-like" things near her belly? I know you said you were keeping her humidity up (which is excellent!), but have you also provided her with a dry spot that she can go and rest in if she needs to get away from the moisture for a bit? Just a small hide with a dryer atmosphere inside can be enough to help out and if you find her hiding out in there all the time, it is possible that her environment may be too wet. Don't get me wrong, they DO love higher humidity and a wetter climate, but they also like to be able to escape to a dry place sometimes. 
At any rate, I think your feeding schedule will work for her. Just keep at it and give her time to fill out a little bit. But in my most humble of opinions, she really does not look too thin to me. |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 15/10/2010 : 04:52:32
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Originally posted by oakleyman18She last shed about a week ago... It seemed ok quality wise, came in two parts though. One of my friends suggested humidity issues, but I've been very careful to make sure humidity is always above 80 (normally 85-90%). Also use a moss hide, as one of two main hides, so she definitely has options.
I would have said humidity, too, had you not already posted your score. Just to make sure your sensor is accurate, however, test the meter by placing it a dry place, then in your bathroom post hot shower, and see if it tracks like it should. Also, where is the sensor placed, at the viv top or bottom, and in a dry area (well, as close a Brazilian enclosure gets) or not? Ideally it should be out of any pooled water, and as near the cage bottom where the snake spends its time as possible.
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Originally posted by oakleyman18She was fed on Rat pups, and I'm continuing to feed her on the same. I understand the change of pace might be strange for her, but feel that I'd rather she filled out her skin and got to a healthy weight.
Good on you for using that exact same food. I understand your goal, just would have ramped it up more slowly to avoid possibly upsetting her system. A regurg is a nerve-wracking experience, trust me.
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Originally posted by oakleyman18She's nearly 2ft, and 43g. Is this a normal weight for a nearly 4 month old snake?
My four months olds have averaged about 50 grams, with a range of 40 to 64, so you’re pretty darn close – certainly not far off enough to lose sleep over. I never measure length, so unfortunately can’t help there.
Let me know if I can help further, |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 14/10/2010 : 22:18:12
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Originally posted by oakleyman18
Thanks, think I sent you an email asking to see your pics!
What does the pic look like to you? I understand the shedding comment, but think she's unlikely to be shedding twice in one week (she has been like this since I received her anyway.. but didn't notice because I let her settle as much as possible)
I can't think of anything on my end which would make her look like that, and can only think that she's thin... Thoughts?
I have acepted you on Facebook. |
| oakleyman18 |
Posted - 14/10/2010 : 21:16:58
Thanks, think I sent you an email asking to see your pics!
What does the pic look like to you? I understand the shedding comment, but think she's unlikely to be shedding twice in one week (she has been like this since I received her anyway.. but didn't notice because I let her settle as much as possible)
I can't think of anything on my end which would make her look like that, and can only think that she's thin... Thoughts? |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 14/10/2010 : 20:06:51
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Originally posted by oakleyman18
Awesome :) She brought round her pet skunk when she delivered mine! That did send my cornsnake into a bit of a crazy mood though..
Does yours have any of these underweight symptoms? I fully understand that she still may yet be growing into her skin, but it just seems a little too out of shape. Could you post your babies feed tables?
Anyone else have any impressions on the picture above?
Thanks!
Ha i been to her house twice and saw the adult skunk and baby as well, and handled the parents of my two babys.
No problems with skin issue with my 2. I will post pics when i have the time to upload or just add me on facebook you will see them on there my email is on my profile. |
| oakleyman18 |
Posted - 14/10/2010 : 16:31:01
Awesome :) She brought round her pet skunk when she delivered mine! That did send my cornsnake into a bit of a crazy mood though..
Does yours have any of these underweight symptoms? I fully understand that she still may yet be growing into her skin, but it just seems a little too out of shape. Could you post your babies feed tables?
Anyone else have any impressions on the picture above?
Thanks! |
| hiper2009 |
Posted - 14/10/2010 : 15:55:57
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Originally posted by oakleyman18
Hey Hiper, Yep that's them! Very nice guys. It's just I've not seen a baby Rainbow before, and thought that it looked underfed.. Could you post a picture of your babies up to compare??
Thanks :)
Yes sure i will put them on the picture topic i have a male and female got it at a good deal too i tradded one of my cornsnakes to Sami lol , |
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