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| LadySerpent |
Posted - 20/08/2011 : 02:21:38
Hey everyone,
It's been awhile since I've been here; hope everyone is well. I do, however have a question. I come across this many times "Do not disturb your female while she is giving birth to the hatchlings, as this could upset her and increase your chances of still borns. Remove the hatchlings as soon as they are born to avoid the mother mistaking them for unfertilized slugs and eating them." Now, when they say do not disturb them and take them out as soon as they are born. How do u not disturb them, but yet, take them out as soon as they are born? The reason I ask, is because my BRB should be due any days now. I have to find out so I do not make a mistake. This is her 5th month being gravid, and her tail end is starting to swell. Some answers would be great, thank u. :) |
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| flaboye |
Posted - 30/08/2011 : 23:26:28
Uhh...must just be you Cliff :-) |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 30/08/2011 : 21:11:29
BTW, is it just me, or did anyone else originally (mis)read the thread title as "Question for where do babies come from"? |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 29/08/2011 : 23:14:41
I don't think there is a set age for "too old," provided the animal is well cared for and has had sufficient breaks/time off during their breeding life. I know one breeder in particular who has animals in their mid to high teens that still produce the occasional litter when bred. |
| tango |
Posted - 29/08/2011 : 22:28:09
thanks for asking this question ladyserpent as i have been mulling this over for some time, and thanks for all the answers from eveybody to her question it has put my mind at ease for a bit.
but would like to ask a question when is an adult to old to breed both male and female and is there a reason for this
i understand the reason behind living them until they are about 3 to 4 years old. |
| LadySerpent |
Posted - 27/08/2011 : 21:32:29
Yes, Joe... I had her on newspaper for easy clean up when she's done. So, no.. no babies hiding :( |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 27/08/2011 : 19:11:06
Thanks Joe! LadyS, glad to hear she is looking better! |
| flaboye |
Posted - 27/08/2011 : 15:41:03
Hey Cliff. Hey LadySerpent! Normally with live births they come rather quickly. However, since you said she seems to be passing slugs, yes, I have seen a female leave slugs one day, then we saw more the next and even more a 3rd day. I don't know what you have her on, have you checked her enclosure for any live babies? They will sometimes hide up under her or burrow into substrate, so there is a chance you could still have some live babies hopefully.
And yes, as Cliff said, leaving the babes and mom together for a while isn't a problem. Sometimes ours would give birth during the night and we wouldn't see it until the next day, and sometimes not until late in the day if I was working in another area. We ran at least one check on the gravids each day, even if it wasn't servicing day for them.
I didn't see a lot of ours ingesting their slugs, however, we were usually on top of it, as we did daily checks and if I saw slugs I'd record the number, date, etc., and remove them.
Again, if it appears that all that's going on is slugs, then it's possible it could take her a couple of days to pass them all.
Keep an eye on her and let us know how she's doing.
Sometimes this is what happens. You can go back through her gravid period and see if there is anything you can do better/differently next time. Sometimes the first time one breeds, this is what happens, or if they are getting older.
Happy birthday to your son!
Joe |
| LadySerpent |
Posted - 27/08/2011 : 01:34:54
So far, she's doing good. Looks lumpy from the slugs she ate, I would guess. Other than that, she doesn't seem to have lost a lot of weight, that I am glad. I wish I can put up pictures because I love pics! LOL But all of my pics are on my phone. If you have facebook, please feel free to add me. http://www.facebook.com/LadySerpent Let me know ur from the rainbow forum... Take care and thanks so much for your help. :) |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 26/08/2011 : 19:55:25
Hmmm, I know it can take a while, but I'm not sure it should take *that* long. I'd have to defer to people who have been through this more than I though. Can you post a picture, by any chance? |
| LadySerpent |
Posted - 26/08/2011 : 00:31:02
Ok, she started laying about 5am Eastern time... I woke up at 7:30 am and found about 7 slugs, so I am just guessing it's around 5am. It is now 7:30pm and still looks like she got a few more in her. Is it normal to take this long? When should I start worrying if I have to? I am a very concern mama at the moment, so sorry!!! 1st timer, ya know? lol BTW, Thanks so much for all the help. |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 25/08/2011 : 23:22:17
By duds, you mean unfertiziled slugs, right? The yellow-orange blobs? If so, it is perfectly normal for a female to re-ingest them, and you should let her do so. It allows her to reclaim some energy from the strain of pregnancy. (And, presumably, in the wild, would "cover up" the tracks for her live babies.)
She may still have other slugs or even babies inside, I've heard delivery can take a while.
Joe, anything to add? |
| LadySerpent |
Posted - 25/08/2011 : 21:42:41
My female ate most of the duds. From what I can see, she ate about 12 or more! Is that normal, is that oK??? I'm concerend. She started eating them before she is finish. She's still contracting! Looks like sometihng wants to come out but nothing will... I'm starting to freak, I think. She's my baby! I love that snake to death! |
| Snakesitter |
Posted - 25/08/2011 : 20:24:13
As a dude, I was going to say.... ;-)
Sorry to hear the litter did not start out well. Hopefully it was a better end, though?
Happy birthday to your son!!! |
| LadySerpent |
Posted - 25/08/2011 : 16:12:22
I mean, duds... |
| LadySerpent |
Posted - 25/08/2011 : 16:11:41
Well, my female is giving birth now and it's all dudes. :( Makes me so sad. Overall, it's still a good day, as it is my son's 1st birthday too!!! |
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