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Zincubus
Snake mite

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Posted - 24/06/2011 :  14:48:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just filled the waterfall up in my BRB's Exo viv and noticed afterwards how damp the substrate was ..... not water-logged but noticeably damp .

Can the substrate be too damp for my BRB .....humidity 82%

flaboye
Hatchling

USA
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Posted - 25/06/2011 :  14:07:15  Show Profile  Visit flaboye's Homepage  Send flaboye an AOL message  Send flaboye a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Damp is ok, but you wouldn't want it soaking or water logged. I use cypress mulch and mist it occasionally. Your 82% humidity sounds great to me! Would love to see a pic of your waterfall and the viv if you can post one!

I guess keep an eye on the humidity level versus dampness of the substrate and try to maintain it around 80'ish, maybe even a little less.

I use the mulch because it absorbs the mist and holds it in for a couple of days, so my substrate is "damp" after the mists.

I'm sure others will pipe in also and tell you how they work with their substrates too.

You never mentioned what substrate you use?

Take care!


Joe


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newbie
Hatchling

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Posted - 25/06/2011 :  16:44:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Rio's on orchid bark and I was worried that it might be a bit damp, lots of condensation and 91% humidity but she enjoys sitting in her damp toilet roll so she can't be bothered!

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Zincubus
Snake mite

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Posted - 25/06/2011 :  19:20:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How daft of me not too mention the substrate I've been using !! Doh !

I've got a couple of inches of plantation soil in there at the moment , I was going to use my normal substrate of Orchid bark but the other guy sent me a few bricks of this plantation soil and to be honest I'm very happy with it , apparently it can be quite messy if it's not kept damp ....not a problem for me so far. LOL


As regards the waterfall , it's not a fancy homemade one just one of those Exo Terra ones , I got it of eBay withna bid of £5 !!

Edited by - Zincubus on 25/06/2011 19:23:03
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gluttony32
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USA
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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  03:00:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The plantation soil is great for a natural look..i mix it with nature bark, orchid bark & moss. Its holds moisture extremley well.
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Zincubus
Snake mite

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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  11:15:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gluttony32

The plantation soil is great for a natural look..i mix it with nature bark, orchid bark & moss. Its holds moisture extremley well.



The soil also allows me to feed in the viv as there is no danger if it's swallowed with food , do you feed in the viv or separate container ?
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gluttony32
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USA
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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  15:40:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I mix it up and feed out of the container most of the time..twice a month & when Im in a hurry or have someone feed my snakes do they eat in their enclosure. Some snakes become so used to being fed in their rub that they assume its food everytime the lid opens so rather than letting it become routine i try to mix it up as much as I can.
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CDN_Blood
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Canada
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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  20:34:59  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Substrate can indeed be too damp. If a snake sits on wet substrate too long it can lead to scale rot/belly rot and that's not pretty.

TODD
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Zincubus
Snake mite

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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  21:06:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CDN_Blood

Substrate can indeed be too damp. If a snake sits on wet substrate too long it can lead to scale rot/belly rot and that's not pretty.



I'm pretty sure BRB's are fairly resistant to scale rot .... just not sure how much dampness they can stand .
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CDN_Blood
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Canada
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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  22:32:26  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I honestly don't get why folks think Rainbows are any less susceptible to various diseases like scale rot or respiratory infections, but it certainly seems to be a widely accepted idea <scratches head and looks confused>.

Their scales are made or keratin, just like other snakes. Over the years I've seen even semi-aquatic snakes like Anaconda and Blood pythons suffering from scale rot as well as RIs.

I'd hate to find out the hard way that Rainbows are just as vulnerable after long-term exposure to the conditions that can provoke either of those afflictions

TODD
25 Years of Commitment and Responsibility in Private Herpetoculture

Edited by - CDN_Blood on 26/06/2011 22:34:57
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master

USA
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Posted - 27/06/2011 :  00:54:06  Show Profile  Visit Snakesitter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd heard from multiple sources as well that Brazilians are more resistant to scale rot than other species. Definitely not true for RIs, though.

That said, Todd is correct: you do not want to learn it's not true the hard way!

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Edited by - Snakesitter on 27/06/2011 00:54:59
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