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capester
Snake mite

5 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2009 :  21:53:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi guys, new here. I have recently bought this BRB with a strange pattern. Not really sure what to make of it to be honest! Its not as pretty as a normal but it's something different. The normal in the pic is from the same parents but a year apart. Cheers

Kehhlyr
The Resident Loon

United Kingdom
284 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2009 :  06:55:13  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Don't know about BRB patterns I'm afraid. (kaz says I shouldn't even be here)
But they are beautiful snakies.

The smaller one looks like it has brighter, more clearer markings to me.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
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gingerpony
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United Kingdom
1442 Posts

Posted - 13/11/2009 :  20:02:58  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
with cornsnakes aztec/zigzag type patterns have apparently come about by messing with the temps during incubation (whether intentional or not) but not at a crucial time that could adversely affect a fully formed baby.........but as we're talking live-bearers maybe if you can find another you could try proving whether it's a genetic anomoly?

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capester
Snake mite

5 Posts

Posted - 16/11/2009 :  01:13:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have another normal female and a normal male but it'll be another year or two until I can breed them
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Kazerella
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United Kingdom
721 Posts

Posted - 18/11/2009 :  18:15:47  Show Profile  Visit Kazerella's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you hadn't have said that they were from the same parents I might have suggested that the paler one was a different species of Rainbow Boa, maybe a Argentine because they are supposed to be reddy brown with less distinct patterning than Brazilians. I also might have thought it was a Columbian/Brazilian cross.

But if it's definitely from the same parents, then it may just be a late developer. The beauty of BRBs is that their colours and patterns really improve with age, so maybe he'll develop a brighter colour when he's older.

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capester
Snake mite

5 Posts

Posted - 19/11/2009 :  22:36:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I have to admit when I first saw it I thought it was a cross too. The bloke I bought it off was really knowledgeable and into high end stuff from Bob Clarke etc. He bred the BRBs himself and see no reason to lie as the normal one was for sale at a tenner less (both were pretty cheap) as he just wanted to make room for bigger snakes. Some of the other things he had were amazing! Still I have a normal male so hopefully in a year or 2 we'll see what their offspring is like....
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bluffscruff
Snake mite

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  11:58:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bred a female baby from two ordinary adults and she has a partially joined pattern much like yours but not to the same extent . She also has a lighter colouration to the rest of the clutch so i kept her back . She is now 3 years old and still looks much lighter than the rest of my rainbows .
Here are some pics of her .


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JKCarter
New Member

USA
90 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  12:48:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I really do love all the variable patterns BRB's can have. Both of these above are perfect examples of just that. Thanks for sharing the pics.

1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boas (Vinni & Scarlet)
1.0 Yellow Niger Uromastyx (Taji)
0.1 Crested Gecko (Unnamed)
0.0.1 Ball Python (Val)
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master

USA
2718 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  18:02:50  Show Profile  Visit Snakesitter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Interesting. Like Kazerella, my first guess would have been a cross or different ssp. Did any of the other babies from those parents ever look similar (if you asked, that is)? Either way, very nice!

Nik, good-looking girl!

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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
489 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  18:54:27  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Call me crazy, but I'd say it's simply a reduced pattern. It happens now and then. I like it

I should also include that as mentioned above, this type of effect can be a result of temperature fluctuations during gestation, but it's likely you'd see more than one neonate with it.

TODD
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Edited by - CDN_Blood on 02/05/2011 19:03:51
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bluffscruff
Snake mite

United Kingdom
5 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2011 :  19:23:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i thought the same that it was just temp related but out of the first clutch of 15 babies , only this one showed the odd pattern and colour . It was born in the middle of the clutch so not the first out nor the last . In the second clutch with over 20 babies (the mom is a big girl) non of the babies showed any difference to the parents . I have tried the same breeding again this year ( as i only have the one male) so will see if snything odd comes of it . I have also paired the male to this odd colour female as she is big enough to breed now but i have yet to see any mating from them . Its defo more of a colour issue for me than the pattern as she is much lighter than all the rest of my brazilians . I would get a pic of her now but she is going into shed .
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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
489 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2011 :  00:14:14  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'm gonna think about this one some more...

There's probably something else going on with it, and I only say that because of it's colouration - it has almost a 'ghost' thing happening, but I'd be hesitant to define it as such just yet. It'd be great if someone has seen another like it and already knows the answer though. I'd sure be interested to find out for sure!

TODD
25 Years of Commitment and Responsibility in Private Herpetoculture
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