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smiffy89
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 30/10/2010 : 04:34:40
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could a brb and a crb breed together and if so what would the end result look like
need to know because its bothering me not knowing |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 01/11/2010 : 22:51:58
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| Good question, and I'm not sure of the answer. However, I would discourage it. The problem is that eventually, that genetic information will be lost and the snakes will be sold as either Brazilians or Columbians, thus diluting both bloodlines. |
Cliff Earle
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lee2308
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Posted - 01/11/2010 : 23:36:06
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i seen this i a rep shop a while ago,they didnt know what it was so was just being sold as a rainbow boa,they suggested that it might be a brb x crb
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gingerpony
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/11/2010 : 08:34:46
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if 'carpondros' can be er, 'made' i can't see why CRBs and BRBs can't be crossed.............but as SS said it's of absolutely no benefit to anyone, especially breeders.
and with any hybrid, do you keep it like mums species or like dads species? |
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smiffy89
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/11/2010 : 18:44:58
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it was just a wondering thought in my mind and as for the husbandry factors they are so close i cant see it being a problem eg temp and humidity. the only problem i can see is as snakesitter says is diluting of the bloodline but is it not a possibility that because these 2 snakes that live within such close parameters of each other in the wild have already bread and if so is it not possible that these morphs have already exsist.and as an after thought could these croos breed hide traits until it has juvis later on in life
feel free to shoot me down on the matter as i see it as a learning curve because if you never ask you might never know and i would never actually breed them unless there was a practical reason |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 03/11/2010 : 21:57:22
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Yes, temp and humidity are very similar. Yes, they *may* have crossed to a limited degree in the wild (or may not...I think they're being proposed as separate species now?). However, I think the risk of either accidental or unscrupulous sales without the base genetic info being shared is a real and worrisome possibility, and for little gain.
Out of curiosity, was there a reason you were considering this, such as a trait you wanted to cross between them? |
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smiffy89
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/11/2010 : 22:21:24
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| just pondering on what you would get if you crossed say a crb with a a high orange/red or even a hypo brb really.so many other species of snake are bread for new morphs but there doesnt seem to be that many in rainbow boas and there is very little information on these subjects. |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
USA
2718 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2010 : 23:30:29
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| You are correct, the Brazilian morph market is still very young. In fact, most of the advertised "morphs" for the species are not really morphs at all, just specific pattern or color line breedings. That said, there are confirmed hypo, anery, and ghost (as of this very year) morphs, and...well...rumors...of other interesting stuff. A cross-breeding with another ssp. or sp., however, wouldn't really be a morph. |
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hiper2009
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 20:48:59
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Originally posted by Snakesitter
You are correct, the Brazilian morph market is still very young. In fact, most of the advertised "morphs" for the species are not really morphs at all, just specific pattern or color line breedings. That said, there are confirmed hypo, anery, and ghost (as of this very year) morphs, and...well...rumors...of other interesting stuff. A cross-breeding with another ssp. or sp., however, wouldn't really be a morph.
Where did you get all this information from   . |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 15/11/2010 : 21:01:25
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| Sorry, was out of town last week. Different sources over time, no one place. :-) |
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hiper2009
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Posted - 28/11/2010 : 22:25:52
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Originally posted by Snakesitter
Sorry, was out of town last week. Different sources over time, no one place. :-)
Oh right its awesome how you know almost everything about Rainbow Boa's , You will have to teach me some stuff that i didn't know about and things  |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 29/11/2010 : 19:12:12
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| Thanks Ash! While I don't think of myself as an expert, but rather just an experienced keeper, I'm always happy to answer questions! |
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hiper2009
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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 16:47:46
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Thanks Ash! While I don't think of myself as an expert, but rather just an experienced keeper, I'm always happy to answer questions!
Well i must admit i have learned alot from you and thank you for that Cliff your a true star ! |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 02/02/2011 : 18:37:36
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| Why thank you Ash, I really appreciate all the kind words! How are your pair doing, by the way? |
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hiper2009
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Posted - 03/02/2011 : 12:50:59
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Why thank you Ash, I really appreciate all the kind words! How are your pair doing, by the way?
Hi Cliff , My pair are doing fantasic especially Mayhem no thanks to you !! , Mayhem shed this morning and is looking all brand new again ahha and hes defo getting bigger by each feed I messured him today with tape messure and hes 2.4ft and i also weighed him hes come in at 125g I am very happy for him hes done so well once again thanks to you.
Bow is doing fantasic also she ate two medium mice 5 days ago as one was not leaving a bump so thought i would offer her two, She has pooed and i weighed her today and she is coming in at 145g she is pounding the grams on with ease I also messured her and she was 2.7ft she is slightly bigger then Mayhem and has few more grams then him but thats understandable as she is female and has 7 more feeds then him but i can honestly say Mayhem is doing good hes catching up to his sister and one day when old enough they are going to be a great breeding pair. |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
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Posted - 04/02/2011 : 00:24:38
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| Awesome, very happy to hear it, Ash!!! |
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