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hiper2009
Banned

United Kingdom
845 Posts

Posted - 25/02/2011 :  11:26:51  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hi well i shall tell how this happend first then you will understand how Mayhem ate some beef ..

Well i was handling Mayhem and my misses was chopping some beef up in to dice chunks for our stew and as i walked near the beef to look at it i forgot i had Mayhem in my hand and he striked at the plate full of beef dice chunks and hit one of the beef cubes and started to eat it i tried to pull it out of his mouth but was unable to i am very worried , The beef its self is raw and not cooked , after he ate it i kept handling him to hope for a regurge but he didn't regurge so i put him back in to his RUB , This happend yesterday and it has been over 12 hours now i have checked him to see if he is ok and he seems fine. Should i be worried in any way and should i seek herp vet??

reptiledanny
New Member

United Kingdom
60 Posts

Posted - 25/02/2011 :  11:43:31  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i dont think it will do any harm as lizards eat meats and to behonest it is just another animal, so in theory shouldn't do him any harm. i dont see why you wanted him to regurge though as this can cause more than problems than good, even if you didn't want him to eat it, it prob was not best method lol
hope hes fine for you, little treat for him



My collection (so far)
1.1.0 het pied royal python-bullet and bow
1.0.0 ghost corn snake-monty
1.0.0 dog-jake

location: whitefield, manchester

wish list:
normal royal python, het pied female, lesser female, mojave male and every other morph + plus a brazilian rainbow boa
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hiper2009
Banned

United Kingdom
845 Posts

Posted - 25/02/2011 :  12:07:39  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by reptiledanny

i dont think it will do any harm as lizards eat meats and to behonest it is just another animal, so in theory shouldn't do him any harm. i dont see why you wanted him to regurge though as this can cause more than problems than good, even if you didn't want him to eat it, it prob was not best method lol
hope hes fine for you, little treat for him



The reason why i wanted him to regurge it as it had salt and pepper and few herbs mixed in it alonge with olive oil .
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master

USA
2718 Posts

Posted - 25/02/2011 :  17:53:19  Show Profile  Visit Snakesitter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow. I remember when Mayhem was a "problem feeder."

While I'd never recommend feeding a snake anything with salt, pepper, and olive oil, chances are there were only trace amounts, especially after you tried prying it away from him. Make sure he has lots of clean water to drink, and watch him carefully over the next few days. Other than that, I suspect he'll be fine.

And on the bright side, now you know how to get him to eat! ;-)

Cliff Earle
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hiper2009
Banned

United Kingdom
845 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2011 :  11:06:04  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Snakesitter

Wow. I remember when Mayhem was a "problem feeder."

While I'd never recommend feeding a snake anything with salt, pepper, and olive oil, chances are there were only trace amounts, especially after you tried prying it away from him. Make sure he has lots of clean water to drink, and watch him carefully over the next few days. Other than that, I suspect he'll be fine.

And on the bright side, now you know how to get him to eat! ;-)



Thanks Cliff , What would the salt , pepper and olive oil and herbs do to him ? I just checked on him now its been around 29hours since he ate it and he has pooed and seems active as normal with lots of tongue flickering , I'm a little concerned with him striking at some beef as we know he was a fussy feeder and now he could go off mice or rats and refuse to eat unless its beef i hope that won't be the case with him i can't bare to go all through the non feeding stage again.
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oakleyman18
Hatchling

United Kingdom
269 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2011 :  13:36:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd get a cow on order.. you may need it



Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Brazilian Rainbow Boa CB'10 "Jade"
1.0.0. Normal Cornsnake CB'00 "Camo" _RIP_
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender Cornsnake CB'11 "Amber"
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hiper2009
Banned

United Kingdom
845 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2011 :  15:46:30  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by oakleyman18

I'd get a cow on order.. you may need it



The sister is a Cow ROFL Jokes <<
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scubadude
Snake mite

United Kingdom
38 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2011 :  18:38:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
What would the salt , pepper and olive oil and herbs do to him ?


make a rather nice marinade

1.0.0 Classic corn snake - Dodge,1.2.0 Normal Royal - Palin, Lyssa & sofia,1.1.0 vanilla royal - Baskin & Robbins, 1.0.0 granite royal - Detritus
1.1.0 crawl cay boas -Maya & Pech
1.0.0 Hypo hog island boa - Harley,0.1.0 Hog island Boa - Babe
oh maybe some more to come

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Kehhlyr
The Resident Loon

United Kingdom
284 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2011 :  19:05:07  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Internal seasoning.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
SOME OF MY ANIMALS

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hiper2009
Banned

United Kingdom
845 Posts

Posted - 26/02/2011 :  20:18:57  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kehhlyr

Internal seasoning.



^ Hehe , Can this harm him in any way ?
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Kehhlyr
The Resident Loon

United Kingdom
284 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  00:08:39  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't of thought it could do any harm in a small amount.
As has been said, just keep an eye out for unusual behaviour over the next couple days.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
SOME OF MY ANIMALS

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hiper2009
Banned

United Kingdom
845 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  00:25:59  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ok well i weighed him today and when i put him back he was tongue flickering as normal and then went for a soak and drink in the water bowl , what kind of unusual behaviour should i be looking out for ?
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Kehhlyr
The Resident Loon

United Kingdom
284 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  03:47:07  Show Profile  Visit Kehhlyr's Homepage  Click to see Kehhlyr's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Just anything that is totally different from the norm.

That being said, by midday today it's gonna be about 48hours since you posted, so would assume about the same time since it happened. I would've thought any adverse affects would've shown up by now.

-=Kehhlyr - The Resident Loon
SOME OF MY ANIMALS

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hiper2009
Banned

United Kingdom
845 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  11:47:07  Show Profile  Click to see hiper2009's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yes it has been 48 hours now and he seems fine , Does beef better than mice like in goodness ?
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reptiledanny
New Member

United Kingdom
60 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  16:30:22  Show Profile  Click to see reptiledanny's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
no as it would not contain any bones or anything like which helps with nutrients and calcium (i think) so no beef would not be a good food source



My collection (so far)
1.1.0 het pied royal python-bullet and bow
1.0.0 ghost corn snake-monty
1.0.0 dog-jake

location: whitefield, manchester

wish list:
normal royal python, het pied female, lesser female, mojave male and every other morph + plus a brazilian rainbow boa
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gmac
Grumpy Scots Admin

United Kingdom
710 Posts

Posted - 27/02/2011 :  17:12:08  Show Profile  Send gmac an AOL message  Send gmac a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
unless its a full cow i wouldn't , there's not enough nutritional requirements in it as Danny has said.

GMac

Edited by - gmac on 27/02/2011 17:12:37
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