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Kelfezond
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/03/2011 :  13:08:05  Show Profile  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone, as some of you know I got a lovely big BCI yesterday.

Today I went in to change the water and as I was moving her I noticed I could hear her breathing, alot like she was weezing or out of breath, I know in royals this is a sign of respiratory infection, however I also know she is huge and I thought maybe it's just that she has big lungs that when I concentrate I can hear her breath.

I also noticed a bubble at the corner of her mouth yesterday when I was holding her, I've not noticed any mucus or anything around her nose yet and I've not seen any more bubbles since yesterday.

Do you think this is RI or am I just being overly sensitive to a big snake?

2.3.0 Royal Python of various morph
0.1.0 Common Boa (BCI)

gmac
Grumpy Scots Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/03/2011 :  13:47:03  Show Profile  Send gmac an AOL message  Send gmac a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
it could well be, turn the heat in the basking area up a degree or 2, also if possible try and raise the ambient temps, keep the water as far away fro the hot end as possible or even remove it just add it for a few hours a day for the snake to drink. If it continues to sound like that would take it to the vet for some antibiotics.

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Kelfezond
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/03/2011 :  13:55:49  Show Profile  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Just been on the phone to southcoast my reptile guys they said to contact a vet so just rang one now, they'll get back to me in 20 mins or so.

Any idea how much a vet will charge to see her?

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0.1.0 Common Boa (BCI)
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Kelfezond
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/03/2011 :  14:16:31  Show Profile  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Just spoke to the vet, it's RI.

Said to watch her for the weekend and see if it dissapears if not bring her to the vet.

weird thing was he advised me to spray down her viv twice a day to raise humidity incase her airways are dry as where most of the things I've read said the opposite to decrease humidity.

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gmac
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Posted - 26/03/2011 :  14:35:54  Show Profile  Send gmac an AOL message  Send gmac a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
is very weird normally the humidity has to be lowered, Also not a big fan of your vet, if she is saying it is an RI it wont go away itself without any intervention and will more than likely will need antibiotics.

Would still raise the temps a degree or 2 and lower the humidity in the viv.

GMac

Edited by - gmac on 26/03/2011 14:36:12
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gingerpony
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Posted - 26/03/2011 :  17:42:36  Show Profile  Click to see gingerpony's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
if you increase the humidity (only temporarily though) it makes the mucous more runny and able to drain more freely
you could also try misting with dilute F10 disinfectant
as gmac says increase the temps to about 30'C in the cool end, 34'C in the warm end

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Kelfezond
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/03/2011 :  10:06:30  Show Profile  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Got Pandora out today to check for any signs of RI, couldn't see a thing. Breathing was silent, no bubbles or mucus.

Think it might have been the long 4 hour drive that had just done her in?
I'm not exactly a vet it's possible I mis-diagnosed her

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Lotabob
Snake mite

United Kingdom
44 Posts

Posted - 28/03/2011 :  21:27:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All the signs pointed to RI so you only did the right thing by checking with a vet. I'd still keep the temp up for a few more days make sure whatever it was has passed, caught early an RI can be shifted with just a temp increase but it may still need an antibiotic to just kick it in the ass.

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Kelfezond
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/03/2011 :  10:30:40  Show Profile  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Back from the vet's!

Pandora has RI but it's not reached her lungs yet, all in the head. Like a head-cold mixed with tonsillitis I guess.

She had a big injection of antibiotics which will last her until Monday where she'll go back again to see if she's okay :)

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Lotabob
Snake mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/03/2011 :  21:24:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bet it was a big injection, its a lot of snake to treat. I have heard that cranking the heat up a few degrees can help dry up an RI but I've no experience of it. Good luck.

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Kelfezond
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Posted - 30/03/2011 :  21:32:32  Show Profile  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah he recommended to keep the heat up at about 33

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sandi
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 31/03/2011 :  08:27:01  Show Profile  Visit sandi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh bless her, poor lass, glad you got it in time though.
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Kelfezond
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Posted - 04/04/2011 :  14:58:21  Show Profile  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Another vet appointment today.

She is improving but will still need a few more injections before she's A1 again.

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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
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Posted - 04/04/2011 :  15:20:25  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

Another vet appointment today.

She is improving but will still need a few more injections before she's A1 again.



Glad to hear she's improving, and I have to agree that raising the humidity a touch is recommended. Lowering it can cause the mucus to dry and start some serious blockage.

TODD
25 Years of Commitment and Responsibility in Private Herpetoculture
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Kelfezond
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/04/2011 :  15:28:57  Show Profile  Click to see Kelfezond's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yeah I'm keeping the humidity at about 70-75 that seems to be okay

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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2011 :  02:08:55  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kelfezond

yeah I'm keeping the humidity at about 70-75 that seems to be okay


Perfect. Keep us in the loop, I'm sure everyone loves success stories as much as I do

TODD
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