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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
489 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2011 :  04:50:17  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Oh no, Laws, we don't export our Snow Snakes. They're precious to us like maple syrup, which of course we use as currency here :)

TODD
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newbie
Hatchling

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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  10:20:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Loving the Snow Snake!

It does seem to be predominantly Corns and Royals around my vincinity, they seem to be the pets of the moment, I'm not too sure that this is a good thing!

Wandered into a rep shop the other day and was surprised to encounter Pines, Milks, Kings and Hognoses! As others have said the financial factor for some of the others restricts popularity, the breeder I got Rio from is after some GTP's or ETB's, but it's very much an "if I can find them" scenario over here!

I had a good laugh at the idea of snakes struggling to wear their t-shirts!

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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
489 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2011 :  13:59:35  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by newbie

...Wandered into a rep shop the other day and was surprised to encounter Pines, Milks, Kings and Hognoses...


Interesting. It takes a certain kind of person to want to take-on a Pine or Bull snake. Not only are they quite often rather aggressive, but if you've ever had one in your house you know how much these things stink, and I mean STINK. I've rarely seen or had one here that was well adjusted and enjoyed a captive lifestyle. Since I can't justify keeping something strictly for it's appearance, they're not on my list of recommended herps.

I can understand Kingsnakes - they're hardy, they'll eat anything (rodents, birds, reptiles, fingers, noses, etc.) and they're usually rather easy to handle. They've got an I Don't Care attitude and tons of personality to back that-up. They can be great fun.

The same cannot usually be said about Milk Snakes with regards to being handled, unfortunately. While they're often stunningly beautiful to look at, they rarely take well to being handled and often remain nervous and visibly uncomfortable for the duration of their captive existence when handled.

I won't address Hognose except to say that most people get them for all the wrong reasons.

I almost hope that GTPs and ETBs don't get found - they're rather advanced and so many don't make-it because of that. It makes me sad.

About the t-shirts...perhaps a bib is more suitable, but it'd just get dragged in the dirt all the time and folks wouldn't be able to read the warnings on them. It's a real dilemma and I'll clearly have to give it more thought :)

TODD
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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
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Posted - 26/06/2011 :  14:02:27  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by CDN_Blood

quote:
Originally posted by newbie

...Wandered into a rep shop the other day and was surprised to encounter Pines, Milks, Kings and Hognoses...


Interesting. It takes a certain kind of person to want to take-on a Pine or Bull snake. Not only are they quite often rather aggressive, but if you've ever had one in your house you know how much these things stink, and I mean STINK. I've rarely seen or had one here that was well adjusted and enjoyed a captive lifestyle. Since I can't justify keeping something strictly for it's appearance, they're not on my list of recommended herps.

I can understand Kingsnakes - they're hardy, they'll eat anything (rodents, birds, reptiles, fingers, noses, etc.) and they're usually rather easy to handle. They've got an I Don't Care attitude and tons of personality to back that-up. They can be great fun.

The same cannot usually be said about Milk Snakes with regards to being handled, unfortunately. While they're often stunningly beautiful to look at, they rarely take well to being handled and often remain nervous and visibly uncomfortable for the duration of their captive existence when handled. Their discomfort being handled often leads to them being problematic eaters, too.

I won't address Hognose except to say that most people get them for all the wrong reasons.

I almost hope that GTPs and ETBs don't get found - they're rather advanced and so many don't make-it because of that. It makes me sad.

About the t-shirts...perhaps a bib is more suitable, but it'd just get dragged in the dirt all the time and folks wouldn't be able to read the warnings on them. It's a real dilemma and I'll clearly have to give it more thought :)


TODD
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gluttony32
New Member

USA
73 Posts

Posted - 28/06/2011 :  03:43:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
During christmas of last year, I stopped at a local petsore for rodents and in their snake room was a Trinket rat snake. I have searched everywhere for a mate and cant find one, in over a year i havent seen one up for grabs anywhere. Right now they have a Japanese Kunisir Island rat snake and im tempted but Its another species almost impossible to find...No other pets stores have them in any direction for miles...states even. Milks, Royals, Bci's and kings are in every chain and private pet store in over abundance here on the eastcoast. I also have 2 Eastern milk snakes that took me 3 years to find someone actually selling them.
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CDN_Blood
Rainbow oddball

Canada
489 Posts

Posted - 28/06/2011 :  03:58:25  Show Profile  Visit CDN_Blood's Homepage  Send CDN_Blood a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm. Gotta be careful what you take home from a pet store. I personally always avoid real rarities because it only encourages them to get more, and if they're truly rare, it's usually best to leave them where they are and let that message trickle back through the supply chain. I can be a real moral dilemma

TODD
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gluttony32
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USA
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Posted - 01/07/2011 :  18:35:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know exactly what you mean... I usually buy direct from the breeder. I happened to let my g/f tag along that day and she saw how I responded to the trinket and heard about how hard to find they are and she got it for me for christmas as a surprise gift...not much I could have done. He is doing great though...he ate f/t the first time I fed him, after they told my g/f it was only taking live..I still cant find a mate for it
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