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Welly
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 16/05/2011 : 21:58:16
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Cliff, i wholeheartedly agree.
I don't mind if i upset people by saying i cant stand rubs for long term housing. I use rubs for isolation and transporting where they have there place.
But i don't like seeing an adult snake or any animal kept in a tub! |
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277 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2011 : 22:34:36
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I don't have a problem with tubs/rubs and all my snakes are housed in them and many will be as adults.
My boas including my brb will move to a viv once bigger but will be in a rub/tub for a long while yet. |
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flaboye
Hatchling
USA
178 Posts |
Posted - 17/05/2011 : 14:52:03
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Hey Cliff:
No offense here. Although I did say the snake could live under a bed "happily ever after", you'll also see I said in several places that I'm not recommending anything, just merely pointing out some simple basics. Snake ownership isn't that difficult if you meed certain needs, and the fact that the rainbow is much hardier than many would have a newbie think. I didn't want someone discouraged or put off because they thought they faced several hundred in housing costs at first.
I just wanted people to know if their budgets didn't allow for boaphiles, etc., that they could get into it for 6.00 or so at a dollar general, along with a 2.99 bag of cypress mulch at the local lowes. That's really the point I was trying to get across. Or, if they already had an aquarium they "could work with it", although more attention would have to be given to a couple of the basic needs requirements of the snake.
I certainly am not going to recommend any kind of long-term housing, as there are several ways to go about this, part of that will be the snake's particular needs, the owner's wishes, and the owner's budget.
Cheers!
Joe
Louis:
I certainly wasn't and I don't think anyone else who had replies and comments were chastising or giving any kind of negative opinion about anyone who chooses to spend and/or build very nice viv's for their pet snakes. All I was doing, and I specifically stated this several times so ***ody would get this impression, was that anyone intimidated after being recommended to get a boaphile, decides they can't afford to get into this, that there are alternatives, very cheap ones, that you can get started with. Nothing more, nothing less. I stated this several times throughout what I said, and I also said I was NOT recommending anything, tank, tub, or otherwise.
Cheers! |
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flaboye
Hatchling
USA
178 Posts |
Posted - 17/05/2011 : 14:53:56
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| Sorry, I meant that last part for Welly, not Louise :) |
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Welly
Hatchling
United Kingdom
164 Posts |
Posted - 17/05/2011 : 17:39:00
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Was't aimed at you fella, infact i didn't even read your prevous post if im honest.
Just my own opinion. Im not out to start an arguement.
Just in my opinion, if anyone keeps a pet, wether it is a reptile or a dog or a horse it should have a minimum level of care and space. If that level isn't achievable then you shouldn't have one in the first place.
Like i said not out for an arguement. Just something i believe in.
Tubs have there place in our area, but not as a "long" term solution. Which i beleive now reading your last post is what you mentioned before.
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flaboye
Hatchling
USA
178 Posts |
Posted - 17/05/2011 : 17:57:48
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Thanks Welly!
No argument. My purpose was to hopefully let people know the rainbow is easy to care for, and you can start out with a minimum of expense if that's what your budget/resources demand.
I agree on care and space. It's kind of like seeing dogs tied up all the time. My first thought is "why even have a dog if he's not going to be inside and part of the family". It's pretty discouraging to see that. My dogs over my lifetime have shared my home and everything with me, including sleeping if doggie wanted to cuddle at night. I keep him bathed, and flea free so it's not any problem for me. And believe me a great pyr needs lots of brushing especially during the two times a year he sheds!
Joe |
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master
USA
2718 Posts |
Posted - 17/05/2011 : 20:45:16
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Hey Joe—
As I said, my comments were not targeted at you. :D I did see your notes about not recommending tubs in specific, and understand they were mentioned only in the context of affordable and appropriate starting setups. My point was more general: our industry just makes a lot of not-very-marketing-savvy choices, and tubs are (unfortunately) a common one of those. These creatures, as with any pet, deserve better in the long run.
Cheers,
PS: LOL on the forum filters correcting “no body” to “***ody.” |
Cliff Earle
Living Gems Reptiles
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luminova
Snake mite
United Kingdom
2 Posts |
Posted - 20/07/2011 : 23:46:37
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@WendyBall
I have all my reptiles in VivExotic vivs and they are guaranteed waterproof if they the joints are sealed with silicon sealent, (aquarium grade of course) upon construction. Also any open grain such as that around the vents must also be sealed. I have constructed mine this way and have had no problems. Have had the vivs for 2 years now. |
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