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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master

USA
2718 Posts

Posted - 28/05/2011 :  00:05:11  Show Profile  Visit Snakesitter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sometimes they work, sometime they do not -- same as any treatment! But they remain a good option in the anti-mite arsenal. Good luck, Welly!

Cliff Earle
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sandi
Hatchling

United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2011 :  10:27:38  Show Profile  Visit sandi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm very interested in what CDN Blood has said about Nix lice treatment. This isnt available over here but its british version seems to be lyclear. It contains 1% permethrin which is a pyrethroid (synthetic insecticide) its a copy of the plant extract pyrethrum and apparently works better. I just did a little research into its use and it will kill the eggs which no other mite killer will do. There are no fumes so it wont harm the respiratory tract.

I like the sound of this so plan to get some. My boa has just got mites back after over a month of being clear and moving into a brand new viv. I'm gutted! The only thing i hadnt considered was that i swapped the electrical fittings over from old viv to new without spraying them with frontline, I'm guessing this was the way in.

So, i will let you know how it goes.
Good luck welly!
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flaboye
Hatchling

USA
178 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2011 :  16:27:46  Show Profile  Visit flaboye's Homepage  Send flaboye an AOL message  Send flaboye a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Permethrin works fine. That's what we use in the event of a mite outbreak. And, we have thousands of snakes with no ill effects. You do need to be sure the % mixture is within an appropriate tolerance level. We buy permethrin itself and mix the formula. You should be able to buy big bottles of permethrin at feed stores, such as those that sell cattle feed, etc. It's widely used.

Good Luck!

Joe

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sandi
Hatchling

United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2011 :  20:11:37  Show Profile  Visit sandi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Permethrin is available as a agarden insecticide over here but im not sure how else it is bought. Another thing i shall be looking into!!!
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Welly
Hatchling

United Kingdom
164 Posts

Posted - 30/05/2011 :  23:36:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe i spoke too soon. He shed over the weekend and now looks clear of mites, looks much better and have now removed an epic retained cap.
Awesome lil snake now.

I'll get some decent pics soon as he is amazing. Just wish he was mine.

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Edited by - Welly on 30/05/2011 23:36:43
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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master

USA
2718 Posts

Posted - 31/05/2011 :  20:11:33  Show Profile  Visit Snakesitter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Congrats on the health uptick! If you saw mites though, treat anyway or they *will* be back....

Cliff Earle
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flaboye
Hatchling

USA
178 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2011 :  00:09:08  Show Profile  Visit flaboye's Homepage  Send flaboye an AOL message  Send flaboye a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Right. As Cliff said. A shed doesn't get rid of mites, but it's great to hear that your inspection shows he's clear. Perhaps get some permethrin and spray the enclosure?

Good Luck!

Joe

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gluttony32
New Member

USA
73 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2011 :  04:30:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I Had the hypo/mites overnighted instead of waiting for snail mail. They came on some dry powdery material. They thrive in a very humid enviroment, therefore I believe upon shipping they start to die in their container which states you must use them right away. When I used them I added damp coconut husk and moss into every enclosure except one. within 2 days i noticed the snakes where almost mite free except for the tank that was dry and left out of the process. Eventually i sprayed the tank down and treated it because the mites where huge and one of the snakes stopped eating. Needless to say the quicker they get to you and the humider the envoroment the better..I also followed up one some enclosures with provento-mite..just to be safe....If you use provento mite before introducing hypo aspis..it is pointless..because it continues to work for 3 or 4 weeks after treatment and kills the aspis too.
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sandi
Hatchling

United Kingdom
150 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2011 :  15:34:32  Show Profile  Visit sandi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've just used lyclear (english version of Nix) on boris and his viv, did it yesterday, put him back in on paper and cheched today....mites on the paper but not moving. Thought this to be a good sign until i picked up the boy and found 3 mites crawling on my arm.

Any idea how long this stuff should take?

Flaboye,
What percentage of permethrin are you using and in what ratio?
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Welly
Hatchling

United Kingdom
164 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2011 :  23:51:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're back.... Have plenty of callingtons. So i will admit defeat. I dont know if i have transported them over whilst helping out a friends or if i never got them first time round. Either way it's getting sprayed. He shed tonight and his shed was covered in them, lots round the eyes. I'm really surprised as i havent seen any in his viv at all or any on him since i sorted them the last time.


Here we go again

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flaboye
Hatchling

USA
178 Posts

Posted - 25/06/2011 :  19:00:27  Show Profile  Visit flaboye's Homepage  Send flaboye an AOL message  Send flaboye a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Oh Welly, sorry to hear that! Well, if you do admit defeat, it wasn't for lack of trying right.

At least with the shed there will be a temporary reprieve. Good luck on your mission, let us know how things go?

-Joe

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Welly
Hatchling

United Kingdom
164 Posts

Posted - 25/06/2011 :  21:42:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had good success with callingtons with the rofous beaked. He clear now so hopefully should get mine too.

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gluttony32
New Member

USA
73 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2011 :  03:06:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate to sound repetative..but I have been mite free for a while now. Thanx to "hypo aspis miles" I have kept snakes for over 15 years and wish I had known about them years ago.
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Welly
Hatchling

United Kingdom
164 Posts

Posted - 26/06/2011 :  07:19:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tried hypo's and they hardly worked.

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Snakesitter
Rainbow Master

USA
2718 Posts

Posted - 27/06/2011 :  01:00:34  Show Profile  Visit Snakesitter's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Welly, sorry to hear about this. Try treating again, not only his viv, but the area around it -- these mites can lay eggs outside the viv proper, and will thus re-infest. Also treat any other snakes' vivs and all decor; trash what you cannot treat. After it looks clear, treat one more time to be safe and catch any stragglers.

As for the hypos, maybe you just got a bad batch?

Cliff Earle
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